Current state of the interview bar, the cheating problem, and the formats that actually work at smaller scale.
The current bar
- Junior-level big tech interviews are still mostly DSA. Anecdotally people say it's getting harder, but from those who pass, US difficulty is roughly unchanged
47:54 - Difficulty varies strongly by country — in India it's "leak code hards and super hards"
48:18
Cheating and the return to on-sites
- 5–6 years of mostly remote interviews spawned interview-cheating tools; Google has now pretty much returned to on-sites — whiteboard or laptop, but in person with someone watching, so "you're probably not going to be able to cheat your way through that"
48:37,48:58
Promising alternative formats (small companies)
- Any standardized, scalable process can be gamed; the best signal is watching someone actually work (like an internship)
49:18 - Many small companies run trial periods — a few days to a couple of months — though that's infeasible for candidates who already have jobs
49:43,50:03 - Navi's own hiring: work samples similar to the real job plus conversation. "I don't even care about what answer they give me… I care about why did they say that" — can they defend trade-offs, or are they regurgitating a ChatGPT answer?
50:03,50:27 - This format doesn't scale to big tech size — which is why he doesn't expect big tech to adopt it
51:04 - Open-source companies mostly skip the problem: they hire proven contributors (e.g. Dax DMing open-source contributors to work on opencode) — "if you're doing things in public people can get a pretty good understanding of how you work"
51:27,51:50